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[quote="Anatole"][quote="guitarjazz"]C Lydian in that situation is essentially a G major scale used in place of G Lydian, or a horizontal scale used in place of a vertical scale. A7 being a II.[/quote] is this situation what is called "Verticalized Horizontal Melody" ? ...

C Lydian in that situation is essentially a G major scale used in place of G Lydian, or a horizontal scale used in place of a vertical scale. A7 being a II.

[quote="Anatole"][quote="guitarjazz"]What about just a Bb lydian over A7? That works fine...suggests an 11b9 color. The other scales suggest other harmonic subtlties, including lydian augmented.[/quote] so either way Bb lydian/ lyd aug / lyd dim over A7 would sound a vertical Bb ...

What about just a Bb lydian over A7? That works fine...suggests an 11b9 color. The other scales suggest other harmonic subtlties, including lydian augmented.

The 1959 edition includes horizontal tonal gravity so for that alone is worth studying. The latest edition starts with the theoretical background.
Listen to George Russell's Jazz In the Space Age and New York, NY.

Wait...start slowly.

[quote="matoi"][quote="guitarjazz"]I hear this as Gmaj7b5/Db[/quote] Probably just a typo isn't it? His voicing: [quote="Anatole"]Db11(b5) voiced as Db [b]g[/b] b [b]Eb[/b] Gb.[/quote] would corespond to GMaj7[b]#[/b]5/Db, that is just how I took it... [/quote] It does ...

[quote="Anatole"]can someone have an LCC look on this progression and voicings I got ? Db11(b5)[/quote] Do you have a melody for this? I'd like to hear it in context. I hear this as Gmaj7b5/Db or Glydian/Db...whether or not you treat it as a Minor Seventhb5 genre or Seventh genre chord kin...

Interesting observation. Have you heard the Ornette recording 'Live at the Hillcrest Club', w Paul Bley? It's in YouTube. It's quite extraordinary. It's hard for me to separate 'Ornette' from Billy Higgins and Charlie Haden. Paul Bley was and is brilliant.

[quote="matoi"]Hi Fer! The more I look into tonal gravity / lcc, the more I feel and beleive that scales are not important at all. You choose whatever set of tones you want, and tonal gravity tells you how far from any chosen tonal center that set is...[/quote] The scales are important in ...

The most ingoing scale for that progression would be F lydian. This puts the C major in a horizontal state. For me incorporating some horizontal aspect to the realization is the 'glue' that makes a super-vertical approach work. Really, when you think about it, so much music simultaneously incorporat...

Smokin'! Thanks!

Really nice! You have some Trane in your tone but I like how you have your own voice. Can't wait to hear more!

Thank you for your response. I've been having too much fun playing and listening to that chart. Once again the LCC opens up some unexpected doors.

Hey Motherload, I was looking at your TG chart of the Lydian Scale and noticed at the far right under +4 it says '2' intervals. According to the LCC the tonic interval of a +4, in the context of the Lydian Scale, so C Lydian C to F#, the interval tonic is C, the bottom note. I realize that a tritone...